Bill Meltzer: Wrapup: Flyers Come up Empty in 3-0 Loss to Devils

ugh

Goalie woes get worse. Now what?

Bill Meltzer: Wrapup: Flyers Come up Empty in 3-0 Loss to Devils
- bmeltzer

Sad

I want Hextall’s head at this point.

Zero faith he makes the required change. 264 and counting.

Perimeter and passive play obsessed with point shots. Countless games with a poop PK for multiple seasons.

These are not the Flyers I used to cheer for. If G or V don’t mask the glaring issues they are exposed.

(frank) them all. Keep trying to gimmick the fans into cheering for a product that puts meth heads to sleep.

Saturday could be ugly.

I'm ready for some type of change. Same poop effort after a win streak that prolongs people's jobs. Rinse and repeat.

They need to add a goalie or throw Hart in the fire and see what happens. The circus in net needs to end. Enough is enough. Hextall should have addressed this in the off-season knowing both goalies can't carry the load and failed to. They're paying for it now.

Chicken poop GM.

I'm ready for some type of change. Same poop effort after a win streak that prolongs people's jobs. Rinse and repeat.

They need to add a goalie or throw Hart in the fire and see what happens. The circus in net needs to end. Enough is enough. Hextall should have addressed this in the off-season knowing both goalies can't carry the load and failed to. They're paying for it now.
- hereticpride

In the past 2 games they have scored 1 goal and its the goalies that you are focused on?

I realize this isn't the NHL of the 80/90s but not a single fight this far into the season. No hits..Just lukewarm oatmeal.

In the past 2 games they have scored 1 goal and its the goalies that you are focused on?

I realize this isn't the NHL of the 80/90s but not a single fight this far into the season. No hits..Just lukewarm oatmeal.
- opeth_pa

I'm concerned about everything but the goaltending issue could've been addressed this off-season and wasn't.

Like I'm said, I'm ready for some type of change. This isn't working. I'm not going to blame one player or one coach but they need something new.

I'm ready for some type of change. Same poop effort after a win streak that prolongs people's jobs. Rinse and repeat.

They need to add a goalie or throw Hart in the fire and see what happens. The circus in net needs to end. Enough is enough. Hextall should have addressed this in the off-season knowing both goalies can't carry the load and failed to. They're paying for it now.
- hereticpride

I'm ready for a change also. I'm ready for this team, meaning the players to bear down and play some consistent hockey.

The issue was not goaltending tonight and hasn't been the main issue all season. I think the first goal is a save that should be made but Elliott made how many saves that should've been goals?

I want Hextall’s head at this point.

Zero faith he makes the required change. 264 and counting.

Perimeter and passive play obsessed with point shots. Countless games with a poop PK for multiple seasons.

These are not the Flyers I used to cheer for. If G or V don’t mask the glaring issues they are exposed.

(frank) them all. Keep trying to gimmick the fans into cheering for a product that puts meth heads to sleep.
- flyer_nutter

Click on this link and look at the heat chart. You'll see that bright red spot right at the net for Flyers shot attempts.

https://www.naturalstattr...9&game=20278&view=limited

Tonight could have solely been won by the power play. Sadly it’s the worst it’s been in years and it’s frustrating as hell. Several posts doesn’t help.

Click on this link and look at the heat chart. You'll see that bright red spot right at the net for Flyers shot attempts.

https://www.naturalstattr...9&game=20278&view=limited
- MJL

If you don’t think the Flyers under Hakstol are far too focused on driving offense from the point than by all means. No idea what you’re watching for 264.

Tonight could have solely been won by the power play. Sadly it’s the worst it’s been in years and it’s frustrating as hell. Several posts doesn’t help.
- arichardson22

It's on the skill players. I don't think both JVR and Couturier are a fit together but they had to try something.

If you don’t think the Flyers under Hakstol are far too focused on driving offense from the point than by all means. No idea what you’re watching for 264.
- flyer_nutter

I just provided the evidence that your narrative is nonsense.

I'm ready for a change also. I'm ready for this team, meaning the players to bear down and play some consistent hockey.

The issue was not goaltending tonight and hasn't been the main issue all season. I think the first goal is a save that should be made but Elliott made how many saves that should've been goals?
- MJL

Ues, goaltending was not the issue tonight. But it's only November and both Elliott and Neuvy have already been injured. That's a concern and last season should've served as a warning that these guys just can't stay healthy.

I just provided the evidence that your narrative is nonsense.
- MJL

Care to look up the Florida game heat chart?

Lol if you don’t think they hyperfocus on point shots, man this is just homerism. Wtf are you watching?

Ues, goaltending was not the issue tonight. But it's only November and both Elliott and Neuvy have already been injured. That's a concern and last season should've served as a warning that these guys just can't stay healthy.
- hereticpride

Of course Elliott being injured is a concern and Hextall deserves criticism for relying on Neuvirth.

I just provided the evidence that your narrative is nonsense.
- MJL

Keep drinking the kool aid buddy, Flyers are looking for the low to high play more often than not since Hakstol has been the coach. Watch any great team in this league and tell me if they use this system or play in the slot or behind the net instead.

Keep drinking the kool aid buddy, Flyers are looking for the low to high play more often than not since Hakstol has been the coach. Watch any great team in this league and tell me if they use this system or play in the slot or behind the net instead.
- FreshFlyer

Just like the PK’s issues aren’t in large part due to the POS passive box. Delusional homerism.

It's on the skill players. I don't think both JVR and Couturier are a fit together but they had to try something.
- MJL

Idk where the blame falls for the power play. It makes no sense imo when you have the players that we have on the top unit. JVR gets a little break / slack tonight (imo) being his 1st game back.

Care to look up the Florida game heat chart?

Lol if you don’t think they hyperfocus on point shots, man this is just homerism. Wtf are you watching?
- flyer_nutter

The Flyers use the points just like any other team does. The high danger scoring chances in tonight's game were 16-7 in favor of the Flyers. They didn't finish and didn't have much puck luck hitting 5 posts. I'm as frustrated with the loss as anyone. Just spare me the uninformed nonsense that this a systems related issue by a coach that you have an unhealthy hate for.

Care to look up the Florida game heat chart?

Lol if you don’t think they hyperfocus on point shots, man this is just homerism. Wtf are you watching?
- flyer_nutter

I dont think they are any more or less focused on point shots then any other team. 5


What I think this group is missing is any physical play at all in anyway. You dont need a Rinaldo out there, would take that in some ways, but if Hagg is the most physical player you have then thats not going to work.

The Flyers use the points just like any other team does. The high danger scoring chances in tonight's game were 16-7 in favor of the Flyers. They didn't finish and didn't have much puck luck hitting 5 posts. I'm as frustrated with the loss as anyone. Just spare me the uninformed nonsense that this a systems related issue by a coach that you have an unhealthy hate for.
- MJL

You’re full of crap. If you don’t think they focus the vast majority of their offense through point shots. Lol dead wrong.

You’re full of crap. If you don’t think they focus the vast majority of their offense through point shots. Lol dead wrong.
- flyer_nutter

I dunno I just dont see that..

Other issues exist but I dont see an overabundance on point shots as being the reason they havent scored.